oops, 4000miles oil change!! metal pieces.

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Re: oops, 4000miles oil change!! metal pieces.

Postby Albuquralque » Mon Feb 22, 2016 2:39 pm

scip77 wrote:I was thinking by this chance, should I upgrade some parts? Like better bearing?


Not sure there are upgrades for bearings and such on a 2014 engine
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Previous Urals Owned: 2004 Wolf, 2006 Tourist, 2006 Patrol (TOW), 2006 Patrol (TOM)

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Re: oops, 4000miles oil change!! metal pieces.

Postby scip77 » Mon Feb 22, 2016 11:25 pm

Albuquralque wrote:
scip77 wrote:I was thinking by this chance, should I upgrade some parts? Like better bearing?


Not sure there are upgrades for bearings and such on a 2014 engine


On 2013+ ural, they use herzog gear? By the way, dealer informed me that repair parts shipped from US.
2015 early Gear up
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Bellof dba2012 led.
Hella ff50 (disconneted!)
Raceway 2in1 high mount right side, 2 brothers muffler
EJK(disconnected)
K&N air filter(not as Good as originals, change back)
Hertz music system (3 big holes on sidecar)
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Re: oops, 4000miles oil change!! metal pieces.

Postby Albuquralque » Tue Feb 23, 2016 12:15 am

gearbox has Herzog gears and the timing gears in the front of the engine are Herzog.
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Throttle Body Vacuum Ports
K&N Air Filter
Raceway 2-into-1 Header (Right Side)
Previous Urals Owned: 2004 Wolf, 2006 Tourist, 2006 Patrol (TOW), 2006 Patrol (TOM)

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Re: oops, 4000miles oil change!! metal pieces.

Postby scip77 » Tue Feb 23, 2016 2:55 am

Albuquralque wrote:gearbox has Herzog gears and the timing gears in the front of the engine are Herzog.


That's great! I watched some youtube video, hersog gear seems much better than old type.
2015 early Gear up
Or map 1.02 off road
Bellof dba2012 led.
Hella ff50 (disconneted!)
Raceway 2in1 high mount right side, 2 brothers muffler
EJK(disconnected)
K&N air filter(not as Good as originals, change back)
Hertz music system (3 big holes on sidecar)
Throttle Body Vacuum Ports
Beijing, China

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Re: oops, 4000miles oil change!! metal pieces.

Postby Albuquralque » Tue Feb 23, 2016 8:39 am

Take at look at this.....shows changes (improvements) in Urals from 2003 - 2016:

http://www.crawfordsales.info/?page_id=54
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2014 Patrol - Babe the Blue Ox
EFI Map OR 1.02
Throttle Body Vacuum Ports
K&N Air Filter
Raceway 2-into-1 Header (Right Side)
Previous Urals Owned: 2004 Wolf, 2006 Tourist, 2006 Patrol (TOW), 2006 Patrol (TOM)

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Re: oops, 4000miles oil change!! metal pieces.

Postby scip77 » Thu Mar 10, 2016 11:59 am

Update, got parts from shanghai importer today. local dealer take out the camshaft and tappet without remove engine. Several front head cover screw broken. Ordered some online, maybe this weekend it can be fixed.

Thanks again guys, for all your kindness replies.
2015 early Gear up
Or map 1.02 off road
Bellof dba2012 led.
Hella ff50 (disconneted!)
Raceway 2in1 high mount right side, 2 brothers muffler
EJK(disconnected)
K&N air filter(not as Good as originals, change back)
Hertz music system (3 big holes on sidecar)
Throttle Body Vacuum Ports
Beijing, China

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Re: oops, 4000miles oil change!! metal pieces.

Postby Albuquralque » Thu Mar 10, 2016 1:15 pm

Keep us posted.

And as I understand, all four lifters and the cam shaft are getting replaced.
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Throttle Body Vacuum Ports
K&N Air Filter
Raceway 2-into-1 Header (Right Side)
Previous Urals Owned: 2004 Wolf, 2006 Tourist, 2006 Patrol (TOW), 2006 Patrol (TOM)

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Re: oops, 4000miles oil change!! metal pieces.

Postby scip77 » Thu Mar 10, 2016 2:06 pm

Albuquralque wrote:Keep us posted.

And as I understand, all four lifters and the cam shaft are getting replaced.


Yes, all 4 replaced and camshaft. thanks for Jason's help, I saw him on youtube, LoL.
2015 early Gear up
Or map 1.02 off road
Bellof dba2012 led.
Hella ff50 (disconneted!)
Raceway 2in1 high mount right side, 2 brothers muffler
EJK(disconnected)
K&N air filter(not as Good as originals, change back)
Hertz music system (3 big holes on sidecar)
Throttle Body Vacuum Ports
Beijing, China

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Re: oops, 4000miles oil change!! metal pieces.

Postby scip » Thu Mar 10, 2016 2:30 pm

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Re: oops, 4000miles oil change!! metal pieces.

Postby scip » Thu Mar 10, 2016 2:43 pm

When front head screw arrived, they will flush the engine, refill the oil. Please advise if I should remove the oil pan take off the oil pump Strainer or another place i should pay attention to clear. Thanks
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Re: oops, 4000miles oil change!! metal pieces.

Postby scip77 » Mon Mar 14, 2016 11:57 am

Hi there,

I pick up my ural today, ride 100km. Engine tappet sound normal, 2 or 3 gear 1/3 throttle, jump and hesitate. I think 2 cylinder unbalance result in lifter damage, the problem till exist. Maybe i should connect dealer tool to balance or drill install the vacuum port Connect harmonizer…
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2015 early Gear up
Or map 1.02 off road
Bellof dba2012 led.
Hella ff50 (disconneted!)
Raceway 2in1 high mount right side, 2 brothers muffler
EJK(disconnected)
K&N air filter(not as Good as originals, change back)
Hertz music system (3 big holes on sidecar)
Throttle Body Vacuum Ports
Beijing, China

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Re: oops, 4000miles oil change!! metal pieces.

Postby scip77 » Mon Mar 14, 2016 11:58 am

Thank you Darrell for all the help!
2015 early Gear up
Or map 1.02 off road
Bellof dba2012 led.
Hella ff50 (disconneted!)
Raceway 2in1 high mount right side, 2 brothers muffler
EJK(disconnected)
K&N air filter(not as Good as originals, change back)
Hertz music system (3 big holes on sidecar)
Throttle Body Vacuum Ports
Beijing, China

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Re: oops, 4000miles oil change!! metal pieces.

Postby Albuquralque » Mon Mar 14, 2016 12:35 pm

Yes you should check the balance, both at idle and at 3000 rpm.

Do you know what EFI map you have installed in the system???

My recommendations would be to have OR 1.02 installed and then break in the engine as per the manual. Rig should get better running with more time / km's
"Put a little gravel in your travel"

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EFI Map OR 1.02
Throttle Body Vacuum Ports
K&N Air Filter
Raceway 2-into-1 Header (Right Side)
Previous Urals Owned: 2004 Wolf, 2006 Tourist, 2006 Patrol (TOW), 2006 Patrol (TOM)

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Re: oops, 4000miles oil change!! metal pieces.

Postby scip77 » Mon Mar 14, 2016 1:23 pm

I dont know my efi map, but dealer promise flushing the 1.02 after these days. I got harmonizer and matched barb from zoro. when i know ecu dealer tool could check the balance, i hesitate if i should drill that holes.
2015 early Gear up
Or map 1.02 off road
Bellof dba2012 led.
Hella ff50 (disconneted!)
Raceway 2in1 high mount right side, 2 brothers muffler
EJK(disconnected)
K&N air filter(not as Good as originals, change back)
Hertz music system (3 big holes on sidecar)
Throttle Body Vacuum Ports
Beijing, China

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Re: oops, 4000miles oil change!! metal pieces.

Postby Albuquralque » Mon Mar 14, 2016 2:03 pm

How close is the dealer to you to use the "dealer tool" to check your balance?
"Put a little gravel in your travel"

Darrell - Albuquralque
2014 Patrol - Babe the Blue Ox
EFI Map OR 1.02
Throttle Body Vacuum Ports
K&N Air Filter
Raceway 2-into-1 Header (Right Side)
Previous Urals Owned: 2004 Wolf, 2006 Tourist, 2006 Patrol (TOW), 2006 Patrol (TOM)


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