Phoenix Rising - A Ural Rebuild Saga

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Re: Phoenix Rising - A Ural Rebuild Saga

Postby Mothra35 » Sun Jan 03, 2016 9:24 pm

Glad to see your back into it.

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Re: Phoenix Rising - A Ural Rebuild Saga

Postby scottolds » Sun Jan 03, 2016 10:01 pm

Mothra35 wrote:Glad to see your back into it.

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Thanks

Tearing a Ural down to its parts is not as good as riding one, but it is strangely therapeutic. Just need to keep the momentum going.

I have a business trip to Las Vegas April 18 and I would love to take the Ural. So, I need to get it done and broken in quickly. Unfortunately my free time to work on it is mainly weekends. But I am staying optimistic that it will go back together smoothly and quickly .
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Engine Parts

Postby scottolds » Mon Jan 04, 2016 7:10 pm

One of the reasons I chose to pull the Ural completely apart was to resist the temptation to just get the motor back together, put it in and go riding. :?

Since who knows when I would then get around to taking care of the flaking paint and rust. I figured it was a better choice to be committed to my original plan.

Here is what a box of Ural engine parts waiting to go back together looks like:

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Some new pistons
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Some new valves
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Some new cylinders
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Cylinder Heads cleaned up
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Just to keep it interesting I will probably switch off between the body and frame repaint and putting the engine together. Not sure I have the attention span to stay focused on one or the other too long :lol:
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Frame Decal Question

Postby scottolds » Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:08 pm

Does anyone know if there is a source for replacement frame decals?

After stripping and repainting the frame, I would like to replace the EPA sticker and the Mfg. Sticker to retain a somewhat stock look.

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I did not see them listed in the frame section of the parts book so I suspect they probably are not available, but I would check with the collective just in case.

My other options are:

1. Tape around the decals to preserve them (would probably go without rather than do this)
2. Go without the decals
3. Reproduce the decals

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Re: Phoenix Rising - A Ural Rebuild Saga

Postby Albuquralque » Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:34 pm

You can call Ural HQ and ask them.
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Re: Phoenix Rising - A Ural Rebuild Saga

Postby GillaFunk » Tue Jan 05, 2016 5:24 pm

You should become great friends with Gobium, for this re-build alone!

This project will probably double if not triple the life expectancy of your bike, assuming you know what your doing.

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Re: Phoenix Rising - A Ural Rebuild Saga

Postby scottolds » Tue Jan 05, 2016 6:03 pm

Albuquralque wrote:You can call Ural HQ and ask them.


Good idea. I will give them a call. Who knows, I might get lucky and actually be able to get them :)
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Re: Phoenix Rising - A Ural Rebuild Saga

Postby scottolds » Tue Jan 05, 2016 6:07 pm

GillaFunk wrote:You should become great friends with Gobium, for this re-build alone!

This project will probably double if not triple the life expectancy of your bike, assuming you know what your doing.



Gobium has already been very helpful. His experience of going through this before is an invaluable tool. :bow:

My hope is to prolong the life expectancy significantly.

I figure I should be able to build it better, stronger, and faster!

But I will settle for 2 out of 3. :lol:
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Re: Phoenix Rising - A Ural Rebuild Saga

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Re: Phoenix Rising - A Ural Rebuild Saga

Postby GillaFunk » Tue Jan 05, 2016 6:32 pm

We need a "like" feature on this site! LOL
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Last nights progress and a question

Postby scottolds » Thu Jan 07, 2016 1:37 pm

So last night I finished taking all the stuff off the fenders. I was surprised at the high level of corrosion on the sidecar fender light connectors. The tail light was not too bad.

I am also going to be changing out those horrible slot head screws for phillips or hex head when the lenses go back on. On the sidecar taillight lens, one screw broke and one won't budge. Also busted off one of the screws on the back of the light that holds the wiring :(

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My question is about how to properly get the wiring out of the rear fender (and then getting it back in). I have the wires from the tail lights and turn signal disconnected so I figure I should be able to pull it through, but it isn't budging. I figure it would be much better to strip and paint that fender without the wiring hanging in the way. Any idea? Here are some pictures:

The front part:
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The back part which needs to pull through:
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the channel on the underside where the wires go between the upper and lower fender skins :o
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Re: Phoenix Rising - A Ural Rebuild Saga

Postby motoleo » Thu Jan 07, 2016 5:42 pm

My wiring did not have the split corrugated plastic harness around the smooth black plastic wiring cover so pulling it out of the fender was easy. I'm not sure if the corrugated harness is stock but like I said none of my Urals have it. Getting the wiring back into the fender was no problem either... I just used a thin wire shirt hanger that was cut and bent straight with a hook at the end that I put the end of the wiring harness around and taped it as flush as possible to the hanger. Then I inserted the other end of the wire into the fender trough and fed it thru until enough wire came out the end for me to pull on. I pulled the wire through and when the hooked end of the wire with the wiring attached started into the hole I made sure the hook portion could easily fit and move thru the fender and then proceeded to gently pull it though.

You may also want to take another piece of wire hanger and insert it into the fender by itself several times to clean out the trough for the wires to come back through.

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Re: Phoenix Rising - A Ural Rebuild Saga

Postby Snakeoil » Thu Jan 07, 2016 6:00 pm

My guess is the corrugate sleeving does not run thru the entire chase, but rather is just stuff in for a few inches. I'd see if it will not pull out (just the sleeving) and then the wires should be free to move.

If not, a trick I've had great success with is using a pressure washer with the lance nozzle (small concentrated stream). I have a '47 Knucklehead that is original paint and the wires were broken off flush with the edge of the fender at the fender hinge. The chase was packed with mud because most roads were dirt once you got out of the city back then. It was more like cement than dirt. I had nothing to lose so went at it with the pressure washer and it flushed all the 69 year old dirt out and the wires slipped right out and new ones slipped right back in their place.
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Re: Phoenix Rising - A Ural Rebuild Saga

Postby scottolds » Thu Jan 07, 2016 7:31 pm

Snakeoil wrote:My guess is the corrugate sleeving does not run thru the entire chase, but rather is just stuff in for a few inches. I'd see if it will not pull out (just the sleeving) and then the wires should be free to move.



Good call on the conduit not going all the way through.

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Now looking at the two ends, it seems the best way to pull this through would be to disassemble the plug at the front of the fender. (the picture directly above this text) The wiring at the back has more bulk to it due to the turn signal and two other connectors.

New question is does anyone know the trick to popping the wires out of this type of plug?

My guess is there are barbs on the pins, but figured I would ask prior to possibly breaking something.

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Re: Phoenix Rising - A Ural Rebuild Saga

Postby motoleo » Thu Jan 07, 2016 7:35 pm

I believe you are correct about the barbs on the pins.
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