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Disc Pads

Postby Wildhorse Cafe » Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:10 pm

I was cautioned by Ski from Triquest about replacing the disc pad on my '06 because the rotors were no longer available. So I said, okay and bought new pads. Having slightly less than 15,000 kms on the bike, I didn't really think I would needed them. But lo and behold when I replaced them, I was surprised to see less than 1/16 of an inch of remaining pad. So a good call on Ski's part. I am buying pads for the '11 now because it has a little less than 15,000 kms and it will be interesting to see how much pad there is when I swap these out. :foilhead:
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Re: Disc Pads

Postby Mikey » Wed Dec 06, 2017 2:16 am

Can't get rotors? Are you kidding? Hopefully it can wear different year rotors. Seems odd to be totally proprietary.
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Re: Disc Pads

Postby Mothra35 » Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:02 am

Mikey wrote:Can't get rotors? Are you kidding? Hopefully it can wear different year rotors. Seems odd to be totally proprietary.


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Re: Disc Pads

Postby Wildhorse Cafe » Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:08 pm

Mikey wrote:Can't get rotors? Are you kidding? Hopefully it can wear different year rotors. Seems odd to be totally proprietary.

Hey, don't shoot the messenger. For that year at least and maybe earlier models (my interpretation) . That's what he said. :cry:
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Re: RE: Re: Disc Pads

Postby Mikey » Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:33 pm

Wildhorse Cafe wrote:
Mikey wrote:Can't get rotors? Are you kidding? Hopefully it can wear different year rotors. Seems odd to be totally proprietary.

Hey, don't shoot the messenger. For that year at least and maybe earlier models (my interpretation) . That's what he said. :cry:
No shots intended. Hmm, must have a common diameter/offset/ and bolt pattern to other bikes. At least you would hope

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Re: Disc Pads

Postby siberman1 » Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:37 pm

Wildhorse Cafe wrote:..... I am buying pads for the '11 now because it has a little less than 15,000 kms and it will be interesting to see how much pad there is when I swap these out. :foilhead:


I would not buy OEM front pads. There are better pads out there.

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Re: Disc Pads

Postby rougaroo » Wed Dec 06, 2017 6:06 pm

Look for the discussions on ceramic vs sintered pads. Short version: sintered pads (also called "metal" pads) wear longer but abrade the rotor faster. Unless you have some performance need, go with the fiber/ceramic.

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Re: Disc Pads

Postby siberman1 » Wed Dec 06, 2017 8:02 pm

rougaroo wrote:... Unless you have some performance need, go with the fiber/ceramic.

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I consider stopping a "some performance need".

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Re: Disc Pads

Postby Mr Wazzock » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:01 pm

Did I read correctly it is a Brembo rotor?

Looks like this?

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At some point they changed to NG, but hopefully it and the carrier will fit on the hub. (?)

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Re: Disc Pads

Postby Wildhorse Cafe » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:21 pm

Mr Wazzock wrote:Did I read correctly it is a Brembo rotor?

Looks like this?

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At some point they changed to NG, but hopefully it and the carrier will fit on the hub. (?)

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Of course it doesn't look that good! I assume its a Brembo but it mounts completely different than my '11. This is the best picture I have at the moment.
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Re: Disc Pads

Postby rougaroo » Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:42 am

Silberman1 said:
I consider stopping a "some performance need".


If the fiber/ceramic pads didn't stop you, they wouldn't be selling them. Basically, the metal pads don't suffer from brake fade as much on things like long downhills, plus they have a firmer, harder, grippier, feel. The ceramic/fiber pads give a softer feel and *may* in some extreme uses fade or overheat. The metal pads are the ones responsible for pictures you may have seen of brakes on Porsches and like that with sparks flying off the brake rotors. One side effect of the metal pads is increased rotor wear.

As the owner of both a late-year 2003 (Russian rotor, completely unobtanium) and a 2004 (early Brembo, also unobtanium), I'm using ceramic pads until I have to deal with some expensive jury-rigging.

They will both stop you just fine.

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Re: Disc Pads

Postby S 854 » Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:46 pm

Wildhorse Cafe wrote:
Mikey wrote:Can't get rotors? Are you kidding? Hopefully it can wear different year rotors. Seems odd to be totally proprietary.

Hey, don't shoot the messenger. For that year at least and maybe earlier models (my interpretation) . That's what he said. :cry:

In ‘07 a change was made to a floating disc... ‘06 has a fixed disc...

Whether or not the floating carrier and disc can be adapted to earlier models...? Dunno...
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Re: Disc Pads

Postby Msblu79 » Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:50 pm

siberman1 wrote:
rougaroo wrote:... Unless you have some performance need, go with the fiber/ceramic.

Rougaroo


I consider stopping a "some performance need".

JMO

YMMV


Especially when most of us have only one brake to count on it needs to perform. :lol:
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Re: Disc Pads

Postby Mr Wazzock » Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:44 pm

Wildhorse Cafe wrote:Of course it doesn't look that good! I assume its a Brembo but it mounts completely different than my '11. This is the best picture I have at the moment.


Oo-er. Well neither is an NG, which presumably is all that's available now. (?)


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Re: Disc Pads

Postby n3303j » Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:34 am

I've got "old guy memory" but I seem to remember an early fixed rotor with a dished mount to provide offset.
Also seem to remember the floating replacement used a machined plug that bolted between the flat (floating) rotor and the hub.

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2003-2007: IMZ-8.1037-06026 (Russian) 300 mm diameter • Not Available Anymore: Upgrade Using Brembo Items;–8 IMZ-8.1037-06026-10 Brembo Floating Rotor Installed from 2007–8a IMZ-8.1037-06132 (steel) IMZ-8.1037-06132-10 (aluminum) Brembo Brake Adapter -Used to Mount Brembo Rotor (adapter plate has width to it to shim the rotor out from the hub)–Brake Disc (2007-2009): IMZ-8.1037-06026-10 (Brembo 08.4899.72) 320 mm diameter • Disc a Little Bit Thinner • European Recall in Fall 2010 to Add Washers beneath Rotor Screws–Original Bolts Too Long in Some Cases–Bolts Fit Brembo Discs, which Were Thicker.

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