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Re: newbie questions

Postby WEGUNTER » Sat Mar 05, 2016 5:20 pm

Welcome Jim. I am down in PInehurst. Figure about 12-15 riders in the central area. You can tote a ton of stuff on a Ural Like a lot of Ural riders, I keep my tools, jack and other stuff in an ammo can and mounted it beneath the tub. Leaves the trunk free and what it can't hold goes up top on the rack.

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Re: newbie questions

Postby WEGUNTER » Sat Mar 05, 2016 5:26 pm

oops wrong top picture....................and some guys carry a spare motorcycle as well :D :D :D
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Re: newbie questions

Postby thecrumb » Sat Mar 05, 2016 6:53 pm

I know exactly where that is!! It's on my calendar :)
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Re: newbie questions

Postby thecrumb » Mon Mar 07, 2016 8:28 pm

Thanks for all the info! I'm still tracking down training - Danville offers a class but does not provide bikes.

Is there a list of things to check on used Urals (maybe by year)? I see a lot of mid 200x bikes but they only have 3-4000 miles on them. I'm a bit concerned with rubber bits, etc with that age and low mileage. Is that a valid concern?

And I haven't owned a bike with a carb on it in awhile. Is the EFI worth it on the newer bikes or not that big a deal?
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Re: newbie questions

Postby eastbloc » Mon Mar 07, 2016 10:18 pm

Yes rubber bits will become brittle and leak. They'll mostly be simple to replace but low miles aren't a selling point for a 10+ year old Ural.

I've had Urals since 2000 and currently have a FI model. Many swear by their carbs and it is their right, but I find FI to be mechanically simpler and less prone to maintenance needs over time. The overall complexity of the system is higher, of course, and if you don't like to depend on such high-tech contraptions as a fuel pump you may prefer to stick to carbs.

Other point of consideration is that the FI bikes have terrific brakes. I can lock up all three wheels and come to a dramatic and sudden halt.

There's a sweet deal on an '07 in Tennessee up in the Black Market right now. That would be on my short list if I lived in NC and was in the market for a Ural.
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Re: newbie questions

Postby 4Paws » Tue Mar 08, 2016 10:35 am

Post up what you find and you'll probably find someone local to the bike willing to check it out with you.
Be patient, lots of good deals on used Urals.
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Re: newbie questions

Postby thecrumb » Tue Mar 08, 2016 11:04 am

Thanks! I have a DL650 I need to sell first (and to convince my wife this is a good idea) :)
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Re: newbie questions

Postby eastbloc » Tue Mar 08, 2016 2:02 pm

After ten years of riding in the sidecar, my wife is seriously considering getting her motorcycle endorsement. She has no interest in two-wheelers, but she's excited about the prospect of being able to pilot the rig.

YMMV...
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Re: newbie questions

Postby GillaFunk » Tue Mar 08, 2016 3:45 pm

thecrumb wrote:Thanks for all the info! I'm still tracking down training - Danville offers a class but does not provide bikes.


If you are a serious rider, who's been riding for a long time, Im not really sure training is all that nessisary. Pick up the ural training book or buy one from a dealer. Throw some ballast in the tub and ride. Ride around until you find yourself really working to get the tub flying, then remove the balast and go from there. Its really not hard, once you understand the physics and mechanics of a sidecar.

Unless you can easily afford EFI, go carbed. That will give you time to decide if you REALLY like Urals, then you can dump the coin on an EFI.

I picked up "سميرة" (Samira) the winter of last year. I commuted with it most of the summer. Its been down with a drive-ability problem, and even though I have other bikes, I miss riding her the most.

Stupid stupid stupid fun

And you can ride year round!! :boogie:
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Re: newbie questions

Postby WEGUNTER » Tue Mar 08, 2016 5:17 pm

If yo do not find a rig by then, bring her to CRAP and we will sell her

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Re: newbie questions

Postby thecrumb » Tue Mar 08, 2016 5:19 pm

WEGUNTER wrote:If yo do not find a rig by then, bring her to CRAP and we will sell her


My bike or my wife :lol: :shock:

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Re: newbie questions

Postby WEGUNTER » Tue Mar 08, 2016 5:21 pm

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Re: newbie questions

Postby Kilometers2 » Thu Mar 10, 2016 7:02 am

dneprlover wrote:
thecrumb wrote:
Off to find this yellow book :)

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Don't bother.

Google 'Hal Kendal's sidecar guide' and download it for free. The Yellow book owes a lot to that guide and the Sidecar world lost a great man when Hal passed away a few years ago



You can download Hal Kendal's books free on the United Sidecar Association's website here

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Re: newbie questions

Postby thecrumb » Thu Mar 10, 2016 10:54 am

Yep, been reading Hal's book, surfing forums for info and doing research on bike shipping - no bikes for sale close by... :(

While I like the idea of EFI and better brakes for the $$ it seems I can get a late model 200x and have a good bike. And two carbs hanging out in the breeze have to be easier to adjust than the bank of carbs on my old Connie :)

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Re: newbie questions

Postby rougaroo » Thu Mar 10, 2016 11:04 am

Guys -

To make it easy JohnBG put all the riding manuals permanently in a sticky at the top of this section of the forum. Click "Ural/DNEPR 101", then look for the "Announcements" sub-section. "Sidecar Manuals for Newbs" is right there with all the manuals for free.

The riding exercises are particularly good to let you get a feeling for the balance and handing of the bike. All of them have pictures of 650's, but don't worry about that. They handle just the same.

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