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Possible nOOb looking for some advice.

Postby Puremutt » Sun Feb 28, 2016 5:56 pm

Looking at buying a '99 Ural Tourist (I think). It hasn't ran since early 2000's, been stored indoors. My friend says it has electrical issues and needs a new wiring harness. No other issues are known. Aesthetically it looks good. I feel like they are asking to much for it, especially after all I have found out about Urals. I was wanting to get your opinion, thanks.
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Re: Possible nOOb looking for some advice.

Postby Burt1713 » Sun Feb 28, 2016 6:03 pm

How much it too much? If it has sat that long I would be worried about the seals degrading and oil leaks. If you are mechanically inclined and looking for a project bike it might be OK. Admittedly I'm a noob myself, but there are plenty of knowledgeable members on this forum who will probably chime in.
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Postby Albuquralque » Sun Feb 28, 2016 6:11 pm

How much is he asking for it?
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Re: Possible nOOb looking for some advice.

Postby rivers » Sun Feb 28, 2016 6:44 pm

Not much info. Hasn't ran in 10-15 years, funky wiring and it's black. What's your question?
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Re: Possible nOOb looking for some advice.

Postby eastbloc » Sun Feb 28, 2016 6:46 pm

Looks like a Bavarian Classic, not a Tourist.

Given that it's at least a partial basketcase from a dodgy transitional time in the history of Ural imports and it has been sitting I'd be reluctant to offer much more than $2k for it.
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Postby rougaroo » Sun Feb 28, 2016 8:48 pm

+1 - a functional sidecar body and frame is worth probably $1500-$2000 by itself. The rest, well....it depends.

Search on this forum for opinions about the 650's. Many people love them, more probably hate them. The ones that like them accept them for their limitations and don't ride them beyond their capabilities. The ones that hate them seem to be folks who bought them expecting a bike that could do more and then found themselves in a money-pit.

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Re: Possible nOOb looking for some advice.

Postby tx2sturgis » Sun Feb 28, 2016 10:14 pm

Puremutt wrote:Looking at buying a '99 Ural Tourist (I think). It hasn't ran since early 2000's, been stored indoors. My friend says it has electrical issues and needs a new wiring harness. No other issues are known. Aesthetically it looks good. I feel like they are asking to much for it, especially after all I have found out about Urals. I was wanting to get your opinion, thanks.


A new wiring harness? :shock:

Is this a friend who is selling it or a friend who knows about the bike and its history and is advising you about it?

If the bike does not have a functional wiring harness, then that is not really a motorcycle, its a pile of related parts.

If the entire wiring harness is fried, shorted, eaten by rats, scorched, removed, or whatever, the new owner of this bike might be working for a long time to reconstruct a functional wiring harness. Of course anything can be done if the buyer is motivated and/or skilled enough.

More likely, there are some issues with some connectors, or grounds, ignition, relays, or other trouble, limited to certain parts of the harness that can be solved, one way or another.

I'd insist on some kind of close inspection at the suspect wiring harness and some attempt at powering up the bike (electrically speaking) to see what works, and what doesnt. If this request is refused, I'd have no problem in offering a low-ball figure (for an as-is basket case) or passing on it entirely.

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Re: Possible nOOb looking for some advice.

Postby Puremutt » Mon Feb 29, 2016 12:27 am

Thanks guys, sorry for not giving all the info earlier, I was getting sidetracked.

Their wanting around 5k for it.

As far as the info goes, that's all there is. The bike belongs to my good friends mom. The person who has all the real info is no longer in the picture.

I am mechanically inclined and could even tinker with the bike if I so wish.

I also did a bunch of research on Urals before making this post. I understand that they are a hobbyists bike, I'm attracted to oddball things for some reason (hence my love for VW's).

My question was to get an idea of roughly what its worth. 5k seemed to much.

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Re: Possible nOOb looking for some advice.

Postby 54vintage » Mon Feb 29, 2016 12:35 am

A friend of mine just bought a 2009 patrol for under 7000 bills....less than 4000 klicks.....runs like a champ.....you might use that as a guide :)
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Re: Possible nOOb looking for some advice.

Postby eastbloc » Mon Feb 29, 2016 1:08 am

$5k is way too much.

If that bike were in good running condition and ready to go $4k would be a fair asking price, but it's nowhere near that.
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Re: Possible nOOb looking for some advice.

Postby stagewex » Mon Feb 29, 2016 1:29 am

Run away at that price and what it'll need to get going.
There's a fellow asking about the same plus a little more for a 2004 on this site right now that looks pretty good if you are into older Urals.
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Re: Possible nOOb looking for some advice.

Postby rivers » Mon Feb 29, 2016 1:29 am

eastbloc wrote:$5k is way too much.

If that bike were in good running condition and ready to go $4k would be a fair asking price, but it's nowhere near that.

I agree 5 grand for a non-running 650 is never going to happen. Her bike and she can ask what she likes. Hope she's not in a hurry to sell it.
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Re: Possible nOOb looking for some advice.

Postby Brian Crean » Mon Feb 29, 2016 7:54 am

For what is basically a non-running bike with extreme issues, $2K to 2.5K, with the 2.5 being more than generous. After sitting that long, with it's issues, you may be buying something that might wind up having to be "parted out" For 5-6K, you could probably pick up a later 750 model. Just sit on your cash stash, and watch the classified postings.

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Re: Possible nOOb looking for some advice.

Postby zsieffert » Tue Mar 01, 2016 4:18 pm

$2K max for a bike with that many questions. Chances are they didn't store it properly, so the fuel tank will probably need to be redone, not to mention all the rubber bits replaced as mentioned earlier by burt.

If they balk and think they are going to get $5K for that rig, then direct them to this thread and let them see they are dreaming.
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Re: Possible nOOb looking for some advice.

Postby 4Paws » Thu Mar 03, 2016 10:32 pm

$500 would be my offer.
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