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2004 Troyka

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 2:29 pm
by Roni
I found a Troyka nearby. Low kms for its age, if the odo is to be believed. I have chatted with the owner. He says that the engine "over revs" when as it warms up. He's claiming piston rings because of bad gas. Sounds more like a carb issue. Seems to me that if your rings are going bad, you would lose compression and, therefore, rpms.

I suppose when I go out to look at it, I'm going to need to take a compression gauge and a spark plug socket.

Re: 2004 Troyka

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 2:32 pm
by rougaroo
May also be a throttle cable hung in the splitter - hard to tell what he means.

I have one, so fire away with question if you get it.

Rougaroo

Re: 2004 Troyka

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 2:36 pm
by gobium
No no.
just agree with seller
you get better deal
why prove him wrong?

Re: 2004 Troyka

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 2:41 pm
by rivers
gobium wrote:No no.
just agree with seller
you get better deal
why prove him wrong?

+1 :)

Re: 2004 Troyka

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 3:07 pm
by a1930ford
:lurker:

Re: 2004 Troyka

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 3:38 pm
by Roni
Thanks. I ask for my edification, not the seller's. I don't want to pay for a piston ring problem. I'm just trying to find out whether there's any basis in reality for the seller's stated diagnosis of his engine problem.

Re: 2004 Troyka

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 3:54 pm
by rivers
Not saying an 04 couldn't have weak rings, but the climbing idle issue is not ring/compression related.

Re: 2004 Troyka

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 4:00 pm
by rougaroo
And besides, if the price is good enough it can be fixed. At least it is running - you are ahead of the game!

Rougaroo

Re: 2004 Troyka

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 5:16 pm
by rivers
If possible before deciding, see if once running/idling even with an increasing rpm, if it's test rideable at least so you can get a feel for the motor, trans, FD etc(the expensive bits). A sitting in neutral unloaded motor will rev a lot freer than a loaded motor. May just be a carb/linkage issue, massive vacuum leak or a symptom/excuse for the buyer not to take it for a test drive to hide a serious issue. Unless it's dirt cheap and you're willing/able to deal with possible big hidden issues, assume nothing...investigate thoroughly.No inferred reflection on the seller but. Non drivable rigs are worth a LOT less than test drivable rigs. Best of luck on your adventure.

Re: 2004 Troyka

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2016 4:41 pm
by Roni
I went out to see the rig on Saturday. The guy wasn't available, so his wife let me take a peek at it. Here are some pics. She couldn't find the keys so we weren't even able to try and turn the bike over. I doubt that it would have anyway considering that it was just barely above zero outside and it had been months since the last time it had run.

According to the owner, he'd had it powder-coated and some other cosmetic stuff done. The paint on the front fender is starting to peel off so that my require a rattle can job until I could get the other issues sorted out.

As far as the engine, though, it looks like that hasn't had any mods done to it. The tires are most likely original. All three tires are cracking along the sidewalls.

I do have a question. Is the VIN stamped on to the left side of the fork neck stem like on my Honda, or is it on a sticker on the right side? The number stamped into the left side seems too short to be a VIN.

Anyway, I'm thinking of offering $2K with just a title and key, $2200 if the engine starts and $2500 if the rig runs forwards and backwards under power.

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Re: 2004 Troyka

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2016 4:50 pm
by eastbloc
Looks like it's got a Denso? Nothing too scary in there. Your prices are in the ballpark.

Re: 2004 Troyka

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2016 5:43 pm
by Albuquralque
Not sure about 04 Urals, but 06 and above there is a VIN sticker on the lower right front frame down tube and the VIN is actually stamped in the same tube just above the sticker

Re: 2004 Troyka

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2016 6:13 pm
by rivers
Next time you visit, see if you can stay for dinner. With that headlight adjustment looks like the owner's been squirrel hunting. :D

Re: 2004 Troyka

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2016 6:30 pm
by a1930ford
:lurker:

Re: 2004 Troyka

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2016 7:35 pm
by eastbloc
Compression checks are dead easy to do on the Ural and don't even require that you have the keys. You can walk up to someone's parked Ural on the street and do a compression check on it in two minutes without them even knowing. Just saying :lol: