2004 Troyka

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Re: 2004 Troyka

Postby 54vintage » Mon Mar 14, 2016 11:32 am

Fantastic!


BTW....did Marv (aka Siberman1) ever contact you about those used (and one new) 308s ?
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Re: 2004 Troyka

Postby INSUBORDINATOR » Mon Mar 14, 2016 1:08 pm

Sincere Congratulations. Suspect your revving problem is carburetor related. because the revs build on its own, something could be adrift in the carburetor. check slide spring & slide integrity. One note of caution: Other than changing oils & lube, Focus ONLY on the reason for present running problem. I have known many new owners to start making indiscriminate adjustments & snarling things up worse. "Don't Fix What Is Not broken" are words to live by.
I'd also be willing to bet that with some of the latest auto finish polishes (available from wall mart) that your Troyka paint job will return to original glory. I know you'll have fun, Best Wishes, C.
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Re: 2004 Troyka

Postby misplacedyank » Mon Mar 14, 2016 4:40 pm

:thumbsup: Congrats and have fun getting it up and running!
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Re: 2004 Troyka

Postby Roni » Mon Mar 14, 2016 7:50 pm

Thanks, everyone, for the Congrats. Here's the first pic from the proud second owner.

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Re: 2004 Troyka

Postby GillaFunk » Mon Mar 14, 2016 9:41 pm

That guy....doesnt seem happy.
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Re: 2004 Troyka

Postby INSUBORDINATOR » Tue Mar 15, 2016 12:17 pm

ALRIGHT ! I think it looks good. Is that bird poop or a dent in the right front of sidecar nose ?
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Re: 2004 Troyka

Postby Roni » Tue Mar 15, 2016 12:46 pm

Dent, and a fresh one. It wasn't there the first time I saw it but was there when I went to pick it up. The rig was parked in a semi-public space. The PO's wife had indicated that somebody had been messing with the cover. I figure some local kids give it a good wallop. Doesn't look like anything is missing though.

As sorry as I am to say it, I'm going to sand out that spot, hit it with some primer and then some black rattle can. I have to get the motor working (and some new tires) before I can worry about the cosmetics.
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Re: 2004 Troyka

Postby Roni » Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:09 pm

So, I'm trying to get some accurate information on my bike. I know from this website (http://www.crawfordsales.info/?page_id=54) that I should have a Denso alternator. Does that mean that I also have the update Herzog gears, or is that a separate purchase? Here's a pic of the alternator.

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Re: 2004 Troyka

Postby rivers » Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:26 pm

Herzog timing and transmission gears weren't std equip till 07 I think? My 06 still had the old Russian gears. Your 04 may have been owner upgraded to Herzog timing gears but you can't tell from the outside. Ya gotta look at the gears. Swapping timing gears is a fairly expensive swap that the PO would likely remember doing.
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Re: 2004 Troyka

Postby rougaroo » Tue Mar 15, 2016 10:37 pm

Look on the left side of the engine for the engine number stamped in. Post it here, or search for "identifying year". If it is an 04 with those few km's it is really unlikely you have Herzogs. Way outside chance that some PO replaced the engine with an 07 or newer or installed the Herzogs, but -again - with those few km's, it's doubtful.

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Re: 2004 Troyka

Postby Brian Crean » Wed Mar 16, 2016 7:02 am

You have the Denso. It was standard issue in '04. As for the Herzog gears, I wouldn't worry about replacement until the old Russian ones wear out. The noises they make will let you know when it's time. (I'm talking about the timing gears). Till then, enjoy!

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Re: 2004 Troyka

Postby INSUBORDINATOR » Wed Mar 16, 2016 12:16 pm

My 02 was upgraded to Denso & has the Russian timing gears. Should be good for years to come.
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Re: 2004 Troyka

Postby Roni » Wed Mar 16, 2016 11:09 pm

Thanks for the replies, everyone. Now to the next order of business: getting it started. The PO removed the battery, but gave it to me with the bike. I've got it charged to 12.8 V. Now for the installation. Leave it to the Russians to make both main electrical straps white. They couldn't do something so obvious as mailing one red and one black. So, I'm guessing like most other bikes, the strap from the starter goes to positive (+). I haven't chased it all the way back yet but presumably the other lead goes to ground and hooks to negative (-).
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'04 Troyka (Riba)
'82 CM450C (Zenaida: gone but not forgotten)

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Re: 2004 Troyka

Postby Brian Crean » Thu Mar 17, 2016 6:52 am

A multimeter is "required" for Ural ownership. On the lowest resistance scale, put one probe on the engine block, the other probe on both battery terminals (one at a time). when you find the one that measures 2 ohms or less, you found your ground (neg). The color in the wiring in some of the older model Urals tends to fade sometimes..

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Re: 2004 Troyka

Postby Roni » Thu Mar 17, 2016 8:58 am

I found my answer. Three leads on positive, one going to the starter; two leads coming from negative, one going to ground.

With luck, I'll have her cranking tonight.

[Edit: Only one lead on negative, which goes to ground. There's a copy of the wiring diagram in the .pdf version of the Owner's Manual. Battery type is YBL18-A, although PO's battery was an Interstate YTX12-BS.]
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