Comfort (or lack thereof)

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Re: Comfort (or lack thereof)

Postby Brian Crean » Mon Nov 09, 2015 8:24 am

The seat I mentioned is a Corbin Gentry 47-0552. It has twice the padding of the classic Police Solo, and the corners are rounded, so you have some "wiggle space" on a long run. It'll fit with a Raceway mount, and for me 3" springs work the best

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Re: Comfort (or lack thereof)

Postby eastbloc » Mon Nov 09, 2015 7:03 pm

I got a Harley police seat. It's huge, but it's pretty comfortable. I put it down right on top of the tractor seat to see how it would feel. Amusingly, that's feeling like exactly the perfect position for me -- with the police seat sitting on top of the tractor, making it about the same height as the pillion tractor.

I'd have to get creative with mounting this bad boy, so for now I've decided to take some incremental steps. I installed a 1" riser on the handlebars and a 1" riser on the stock tractor by installing longer bolts with spacers. It's a little better. My knees aren't quite as bent and as a result my weight doesn't ride completely on my spine. But I'm going to want to either raise the tractor a lot more (while possibly switching to the police seat) or ditch the tractors altogether for something like the enduro that allows me to sit further back.
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Re: Comfort (or lack thereof)

Postby BigJames » Tue Nov 17, 2015 1:12 pm

Brian Crean wrote:Corbin also makes a thicker version of that 1920's seat, mounted on the same metal pan. If you go that way, they are comfortable, but be aware that relocating the fender rack is required for clearance


Have an ancient version of that seat on my Servicar. So early it is a Corbin cover on a stock HD seat pan! Ural also now offers a taller seat mount for, well, tall guys...and a seat riser, or you can slip a hockey puck under your mount and get 1.5 inches of height too...best part of a Ural, so may ways to modify...
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Re: Comfort (or lack thereof)

Postby Revtech100 » Sat Nov 28, 2015 9:27 pm

Other bikes I've owned, I've built my own seat pans to match my wide azz. Now the ural tractor seat is the most comfortable I have ever had. Maybe to may years on a farm, but it fits me well. On long rides (1,000 plus miles), not even a wimper from the back side. Love it!
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Re: Comfort (or lack thereof)

Postby eastbloc » Sat Dec 05, 2015 6:19 pm

The hockey puck mod is genius. Two pucks raises the seat to where I think I would like it. I haven't ruled out a third puck, which would put the front seat level with the rear.

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Re: Comfort (or lack thereof)

Postby eastbloc » Sun Dec 13, 2015 9:01 pm

This didn't help much in terms of comfort. It does help with confidence. I've been riding GS'es all my life and don't like sitting low to the ground. I like to be able to see what's going on.

Comfort-wise the bike remains a bit of a disaster. Something about the bars and the seat makes me slouch, and the stiff suspension and crappy area roads act like a pile driver to the spine.

I think the problem is being relatively fixed in position with the tractor seat. I don't think anything short of a bench seat is going to solve this for me. I do think the position of the bars is contributing though, so I'm going to swap them with some Pro-Tapers before I go splurge on the seat.
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Re: Comfort (or lack thereof)

Postby stagewex » Sun Dec 13, 2015 9:47 pm

Wow, that is really high. How tall are you?

I found the regular standard tractor to be the most comfortable and my bike came with a bench seat. I did add 1"bar risers so I was not slouching downward. I'm 6'2" and 225lbs.
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Re: Comfort (or lack thereof)

Postby eastbloc » Sun Dec 13, 2015 10:22 pm

I'm 6'4" and 220lbs with a 35" inseam. I don't think height is the main issue. I have some specific repeated-stress injuries from years of motorcycling and bicycling that are aggravated by the seating position. I just need to find ergos that work for me. I had the same issue on my '95 Sportsman (tractor seat) but never had a problem with all-day comfort on my '96 Tourist with a bench.

I do think changing the angle of the bars will help. I added 1" risers too but it did not do much. I think the angle of the grips is suboptimal.

One thing I am fully confident of is that it will be possible to set this bike up to my needs, and that it will be well worth doing. I will document the process here in case someone else can learn from it.
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Re: Comfort (or lack thereof)

Postby scan » Sun Dec 13, 2015 10:24 pm

eastbloc wrote:This didn't help much in terms of comfort. It does help with confidence. I've been riding GS'es all my life and don't like sitting low to the ground. I like to be able to see what's going on.

Comfort-wise the bike remains a bit of a disaster. Something about the bars and the seat makes me slouch, and the stiff suspension and crappy area roads act like a pile driver to the spine.

I think the problem is being relatively fixed in position with the tractor seat. I don't think anything short of a bench seat is going to solve this for me. I do think the position of the bars is contributing though, so I'm going to swap them with some Pro-Tapers before I go splurge on the seat.

I added 5/8 thick gel foam to the tractor seat and it helps. I too need to either raise the bars or replace them. Which pro-taper are you look at?
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Re: Comfort (or lack thereof)

Postby gsjo » Sun Dec 13, 2015 10:34 pm

My 2012 Patrol came with a Russel Day Long with back rest and 1" bar risers. Very good fit for me
6' 3". But not nearly as nice looking as the wife's solo on her GU.

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Re: Comfort (or lack thereof)

Postby eastbloc » Thu Dec 17, 2015 7:36 pm

I got the Pro Taper SE Handlebars from Revzilla. I'll be putting them on this weekend. They're a fair bit wider and shaped more like the familiar bars on my GS.

Maybe I'm too much of a princess, but one of the problems with the tractor seat is that the rubber is very soft and I end up sitting on the two metal supports under the seat. These hard, concentrated points cause discomfort after an hour in the saddle. My '95 Sportsman had the identical problem, so it's not unique to my seat (though it might be unique to my arse!)
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Re: Comfort (or lack thereof)

Postby INSUBORDINATOR » Sat Dec 19, 2015 9:55 pm

I modified my seat mount so I could use a British made LYCETTE seat Replica. they are much more comfortable than the tractor seat, having a lot more spring & flex, but still look right. I am using the old Ural pull back handle bar risers, with low superbike bars. fits me pretty well.
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Re: Comfort (or lack thereof)

Postby lomax » Sat Dec 19, 2015 11:05 pm

I went full out and put a Russel Day long on mine. Nice and comfortable and sits up high :D

Sorry, best picture I have of it.

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Yes it is a Russel bench. I can get better pictures but it will be about three weeks before I can. :oops: I got it from Raceway.
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Re: Comfort (or lack thereof)

Postby eastbloc » Sat Dec 19, 2015 11:26 pm

Is that a Russell bench? I'd like to see some better pics!

I got the Pro-Taper bars on the bike today, it was a piece of cake. i ditched the risers for now. The clutch cable routing is a little convoluted, it hits the headlight ear on the left side pretty soon in the travel of the housing so I may need to tweak it a bit.

The position of the bars definitely unloads my butt and puts more weight on the wrists. It makes the bike feel a lot more sporty which in itself is interesting.

I'll post some pics tomorrow. It's unclear whether this will solve my ergo issues, but it's a low-cost change. I like the look and feel of the bar so far and I like the crossbar (gives me more places to mount stuff).
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Re: Comfort (or lack thereof)

Postby eastbloc » Sun Dec 20, 2015 11:14 pm

Here's a few pics of the Pro-Tapers. Yeah, I ran out of black zip-ties.

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