iKon Suspension for Urals

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Re: iKon Suspension for Urals

Postby gobium » Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:40 am

Lmo wrote:Just to add some reference material to this discussion; this old thread dealt with actual weight (empty) distribution measured by load cell.

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The result, provided by Brother Glenn (Speedbump) is shown below

LF = 266 #
LR = 337#
RR (sidecar) = 188#
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Perhaps a brief explanation of spring rate vs. load rate would be helpful (to me anyway).
Am I correct in my understanding that 75/120 (below) represents zero deflection at 75# load, and 1" deflection at 120# load?
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Ural used progressive on their solo NOT for sidecar rig

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Re: iKon Suspension for Urals

Postby gobium » Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:48 am

IkonUSA wrote:Brievietsthir list members,

Roger from iKon Suspension USA reaching out to forum members for some information on OEM shocks.

We're starting to get more and more inquiries and orders for suspension to fit Urals but I have a few questions with regard to any suspension dimension changes which may have taken place over the years.

Presently, we offer our 7610 series shock absorber part# 7610-1664 which measures (from center of top eye to center of lower mount clevis) 325mm or 12.8" with an inside lower clevis width of 25mm and a 10mm hole for the fixing bolt. We list this as being suitable for all Ural models from 2008 to the present and is suitable for front, rear and sidecar suspension.

My question to forum members is with regards to earlier Urals. What is different (if anything) about the shock absorbers used on Urals prior to 2008?

'Appreciate your input.

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Re: iKon Suspension for Urals

Postby gobium » Fri Sep 22, 2017 9:52 am

Old 650/750 vs new 2013
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Re: iKon Suspension for Urals

Postby tx2sturgis » Fri Sep 22, 2017 11:43 am

Lmo wrote:
Perhaps a brief explanation of spring rate vs. load rate would be helpful (to me anyway).
Am I correct in my understanding that 75/120 (below) represents zero deflection at 75# load, and 1" deflection at 120# load?



Sorry I'm late returning to the party!

You got an answer but let me cut to the chase on dual spring rates (you can tell its a dual-rate because the coils are not evenly spaced all the way from top to bottom, or sometimes the spring wire itself is tapered).

The first number, 75, is the rate of deflection, pounds needed to compress one spring, one inch, in the first inch of travel.

The second number, 120, is the pounds needed to compress one spring, one inch of deflection, in the LAST inch of travel.

A single rate spring would only have one number, such as 100. Meaning, 100 pounds needed to compress the spring one inch, all the way thru its travel.

And yes, this is a Solo sT. I only posted because the original question asked about ALL Urals of certain years, and it needs to be posted on the product website that the Ural Solo is a bit different. And, it only uses two shocks!

Nuff said. Back to lurking.


Great offer by iKon BTW! :thumbsup:
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Re: iKon Suspension for Urals

Postby Jim_Z » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:40 pm

I spent some time talking to the folks at the IKON booth at the Barber Motorsports Vintage Days the week
They are very jazzed about working with folks on Sover Steeds on the project to develop a set of shocks for the Ural sidecar rigs. Think I will start setting some funds aside for a set. Good job Van and others working on this for the be night of the SS Collective.
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Re: iKon Suspension for Urals

Postby GillaFunk » Sun Oct 08, 2017 2:01 am

I'll order of a set of these next month for a future Ural purchase I plan on making in the near future.
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Re: iKon Suspension for Urals

Postby Tin Man » Sun Oct 08, 2017 9:22 am

Looks like Santa might be a bit busier this season..... :foilhead:
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Re: iKon Suspension for Urals

Postby GillaFunk » Mon Dec 04, 2017 3:28 am

Whatever happened to this?

Did anyone upgrade?
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Re: iKon Suspension for Urals

Postby Tomcatfixer » Mon Dec 04, 2017 5:42 am

Whatever happened to this?

Did anyone upgrade?


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Re: iKon Suspension for Urals

Postby BlueRockCrawler » Tue Dec 05, 2017 8:25 pm

Tomcatfixer wrote:
Whatever happened to this?

Did anyone upgrade?


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There are things... in the works.

For the cT or the rpoc?
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Re: iKon Suspension for Urals

Postby Tomcatfixer » Tue Dec 05, 2017 8:29 pm

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2015 Ural cT "Mobile Chernobyl", 1999 Ural Tourist "Desert DisGrace: the Iron (Oxide) Curtain", 1994 Honda VFR750F, 1986 Yamaha FZX700S Fazer

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Re: iKon Suspension for Urals

Postby Tin Man » Wed Dec 06, 2017 6:41 pm

:lurker:
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Re: iKon Suspension for Urals

Postby Lmo » Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:55 pm

Snakeoil - I PM'd you... do you copy?
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Re: iKon Suspension for Urals

Postby IkonUSA » Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:18 pm

The Ikon Suspension USA project to design (with assistance from Snakeoil, TomCatFixer and Gobium) Ikon units specifically for the Ural is going well. Pre-production suspension units are already in the field with Snakeoil. he's submitted truly outstanding reports which been above and beyond. These comments and observations have been fed back to the Ikon factory in Australia and design/manufacturing 'tweaks' have already been implemented as a result.
Refining a product to suit a particular application is so much more than just selecting the correct length of a suspension unit; we're trying different spring rates to see how the Urals react and will also (based upon feedback from the unpaid focus group) adjust internal damping (valving) rates.
As winter begins to bite on the eastern seaboard, road testing will understandably slow somewhat over the next few weeks, however I'll post updates to the forum as more development occurs.

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Re: iKon Suspension for Urals

Postby Tomcatfixer » Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:44 pm

As winter begins to bite on the eastern seaboard, road testing will understandably slow somewhat over the next few weeks,

Uh, not on account of me. 8)
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2015 Ural cT "Mobile Chernobyl", 1999 Ural Tourist "Desert DisGrace: the Iron (Oxide) Curtain", 1994 Honda VFR750F, 1986 Yamaha FZX700S Fazer

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2007 Honda VTR1000 FireStorm (Super Hawk in U.S.)
2001 Buell Blast! - - - - - - - 2005 Yamaha FJR1300
1993 Honda CBR600F2 - -1984 Yamaha FJ1100
1986 Yamaha FZX700S (a different one than above)


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